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Equine Guided Education. What does that mean? Here’s my take on it…

Thursday, October 21st, 2010 | Filed under Handy Tips



Have you heard that phrase?  Equine Guided Education (EGE)?  Do you know what it means?  Me, neither.   I had no idea what it meant…  Equines guiding us to learn?  Equines are guided by us to learn?  Equines watch us as we learn?  I had no idea.


I wanted to study up on it all.  Of course, I went to Mr. Google and he popped up with a few links.

Hmmmmm.  I was reading the first listing and I didn’t see an explanation anywhere.  There wasn’t a “What is EGE” tab.  I kept clicking and reading but nothing was a clear-cut explanation.  Hmmmm.  Either this was a bad website or I was too literal in what I wanted to know…  So, I went to another website.  This one had much more description but it was very “woo-woo”.  However, the site was easy to navigate so I clicked around a bit.  I did learn that many people who took the course to become practitioners were very happy via their testimonials!   (I also learned that it is quite a commitment to become a practitioner as it is very expensive.)  There were also testimonials of clients who had worked with the EGE practitioners.  They seemed to find revelations about their lives and their horses.  Hmmmmmm.  Still however, I was not clear on the exact science.

I thought about this and decided that maybe EGE was so new and inventive that no one wanted to give the secrets away on a website.  Or, perhaps it is so difficult to describe, they skip that part.  Maybe the science is too emotional and etherial to describe.  Or maybe it is so simple and obvious (once you know it) that they don’t want to print it.  I really didn’t know what to think.

The best definition I garnered was that EGE is somatic education with horses.    Hmmmmm.


After all of that research, I found out that I know someone who is certified in EGE!  And, this person is not an “out there” kind of gal… She has a Master’s in Psychology, has taught Dynamics of Developing Relationships at SSU and a bunch of other things…  Hmmmmm, again.  Now I was really intrigued.  A ‘normal’ friend of mine was actually teaching this.  So, I called her.  She tried to explain EGE to me briefly over the phone and I still was pointing my chin to the right and my lips to the left.   But, because she was so excited about it, I accepted her offer to come over and show me.  Nice of her, I thought.

I figured, hands-on and in-person would be my best bet at understanding.


The idea is that a practitioner comes to your place to work with your horses, or you go to the practitioner’s home to work with their horses.  I think they prefer that you go to their place and work with their horses because it is like any working animal/handler relationship…  after working with a particular animal for a while, you understand how they are and what their indications mean.  So, I’m sure there is a shorthand when using the clinician’s horse.  However, horses (as with dogs) have characteristics that are consistent across the board so it was agreed that she would come to my place (since I didn’t have a car last week).

We started with BG, my TWH mare.  My friend asked me what I wanted to know about her.  I said that I wanted to know why BG went into auto-pilot when we rode.  I wanted to know why she just motored around without enjoying any of it.

We brought BG into the arena and she and I stood there.  My friend asked me to formulate the question of what I wanted to know.  But, the question had to be a yes or no, or either/or, or ‘is this right’ kind of question.  My gist was that horses are sensitive.  They pick up on their person’s feelings and emotions.  So, basically, Equine Guided Education is where the equine calls “Bulldoo” or “Yes!” to whatever it is that you are asking or thinking.

How?  Well, after testing it, I kinda think it is like the Pinocchio Arm Lie Detector Test.  You know the one… You put your arm out straight and state a statement.  If you are lying to yourself or others, your friend can push your arm down.  If you are being truthful to yourself or others, your arm stays straight.  Now, I have no idea how this works, it just does. Same with EGE.  I asked the questions and if it rang true, she came around me and engaged.  If it rang false, she went away or disengaged.

Pinocchio Arm Lie Detector Test, remember that? Are you being truthful...?


The odd thing was that it worked.  It seemed so random and not possible, yet, the horse was right every time.  I basically just asked her questions that I knew the answer or thoughts that needed confirmation.  And, she hit it every time.  So, I figure that I give off the “nope” or the “yep” energy fairly well…  (as an aside, this really made me think about how I am when I’m riding… and how effected the horse must be to my moods).

Then I moved onto what was up with her… and after several questions, it was determined that she liked one-on-one interaction rather than riding.  She liked it when I was teaching her tricks.  She missed having that face-time and close contact with me.  Riding wasn’t intimate enough.  Hmmmmmm.

We then went over to Hubby’s horse, Bodhi.  We used him as a sounding board for my personal and career questions.  It seems that not only do horses engage or disengage per what vibe your body emits at the time, but they also can indicate parts of your body that are out of whack or working overtime.  I’m guessing they do this by feeling homeostasis (or the lack thereof) or by feeling heat or maybe energy stagnation.  In any event, he was right.  He told me that I was too in my head about work and that I needed to be more grounded and not be so survival driven.

I hate it when the horses are right…  ;)


But, kidding aside, if this is merely a mirroring exercise then truly, I was using Bodhi to speak to myself.  I was using Bodhi as an intermediary.  I was using Bodhi so that speaking aloud my inner fears/truths could be encapsulated within this somewhat dubious exercise which would give me more time to really think it over – later while I was alone.  Maybe having a horse there eases the heavy reality of what is discovered which enables more discovery.  Dunno.

My Ah-ha moment really came when I realized that EGE is another form of self-help but in the most comfortable place, for a horse lover.  When your education partner is your horse who loves unconditionally, things go a bit more smoothly.  You know you aren’t being judged.  The horse is in the moment.  If you feel all stiff which makes the horse stiff, you know that the horse will soften when you soften.  And, you aren’t with a stranger in a strange room.  (Not that I’m against traditional therapies.  I’m not.)  This environment (with my horse in my arena) was far easier for me to let go of my habits and be free to listen.  The horses are unconditional, honest and forgiving… and that was nice.

Maybe this has nothing to do with horses at all – except that being around them might relax the owner enough to really hear what is inside their own heart.  Maybe it is all about creating the environment where a person can be truthful.  Dunno.


As an aside, I can kinda hear some of you.  “BG is just spoiled.  Send her to my house and she’d enjoy riding!”

Well, I disagree for two reasons.  The first is that BG motors around and rides quite well.  She just acts like a robot.  And, she does this with everyone.  The second reason I don’t think she is spoiled is because I think horses, as with any being, are happier when they are doing what they like to do.  I have plenty of riding horses.  If BG likes to do tricks and have one-on-one face time with me, then we’ll do that.  In fact, that is how most trick and famously talented horses come to be.  Their trainers recognize a natural trait in the horse and they expand on that.  So, I’ll try it.


Naw, I don’t think Bodhi is a mystic.  I just think he is very true to his horsey nature.  He is totally open, he hasn’t been shut down or abused,  so he is a very honest mirror of human energy.  We all know that horses pick up on our moods right away…  And, he mirrored me correctly.  It makes total sense to me to be more grounded at work, think less and trust more…  Smarty-pants horse.


If you want to contact my EGE practitioner friend and have fun with this yourself, here is her website.  (I’m not affiliated and don’t make a commission or anything.)   Here is a bit about her ranch:

“Circle Seven Ranch “a safe haven where horses help humans embark on a journey of endless discovery with infinite rewards”.

The Circle Seven Ranch offers Equine Guided Education courses, where, through the horse’s sensory and intuitive responses, we learn and rediscover our own authentic self. Horses, as teachers, are non-judgmental mirrors into the depths of our inner thoughts and beliefs. Through this experiential learning, horses reflect our internal state of being in the moment, and provide us with feedback to determine whether or not our internal being is congruent with our external presentation of ourselves.

Through one-on-one sessions with the horse, either from the ground or mounted, children, teenagers and adults can embark on a magnificent journey of self discovery, where the rewards are infinite.”

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Leslie Anne Webb: A Legal Insider Tip… with a $4500 prize!!



You know how when you contemplate buying a lottery ticket you say to yourself, “Hmmmmm, I know the odds are against me but … I’m gonna do it anyway! (you say the last part really fast!)”  Or, on the flip side,  “I might as well burn this dollar as buy a lottery ticket…”

How ever you feel about the lottery, you know that the odds are basically against you winning.

Well, I have a hot tip on something wonderful that you could win…  The oddsmakers are with us on this one!   No one knows about this contest and therefore no one has submitted their names….   (I feel like a bookie.)

Charlie Blue Eyes

Ay  Chi hua hua!   Readers, I want one of you to WIN this!  If you do win, please please please let me know and I’ll write a whole post devoted to your story and your final prize!  OK, here goes…


Remember how I told you that famous artist, Leslie Anne Webb, has a drawing going on right now in which someone will win one of her ORIGINAL painting of their choice (here is the former post link).  Well, there are only a few days left and I know that there are hardly any names in the hat…


Big Butt

Well, I know Leslie’s work, but the only reason I have actually met her in the flesh is because she just so happens to live in the same small town where I live.  And, I happen to ride where she rides and I occasionally end up in the same room with her.  On one of these occasions recently, we were all chatting,  and she told us in an offhanded way that she has been so busy with her summer shows that she has spent no time promoting this drawing.

Hmmmmm.  My mind started whirring… a contest with no contestants?

Lend Me an Ear

I asked her what that meant… She said that there are hardly any names in the fishbowl.  WHA?!  Hardly any names?  Yup.  Very few people know about the contest.  Leslie has been too busy to pay any attention to promoting it. And, the contest is almost over (June 30th).   Hmmmmmm.  Let me do the math here…  Are there 10 names?  Are there 20 names?  Are there 3 names?  I have no idea.  I didn’t ask… but she indicated jovially that the lack of names in the jar was her fault due to her lack of free time and silly negligence.   “Uhhhhh,


should you be telling me this?”   Leslie didn’t care.  She was just talking…  She was saying that picking out a name would be really easy at this rate and maybe she should dump the meager contents of the biggish fishbowl into a littlish soapdish.  Huh?!!

Wahoo!  The odds are looking really good!  I mean, the contest is happening and it WILL have a winner.  With those odds, it could be YOU.  What an opportunity!  I had to tell you readers!  (I did ask Leslie if I could spread the word and she was delighted for me to do the work….)  So, let’s go for it!





I mean, consider the jelly bean counting contest at the State Fair.  We all think we have a chance to win that.  Millions of people buy a lottery ticket when they are fairly certain that they won’t win.  I know that I buy raffle tickets/charity tickets/hot dog tickets/car wash tickets mostly every time one comes around.  And for all the aforementioned purchases, we have no idea of the odds.  We do it because it feels good, its fun and because we all like the “lucky” feeling of being chosen.  “I won!  I never win anything!”  We are tickled pink with our prized T-shirt caught from the cannon (wrestled from the 4th grader in front of you) at the local Triple A baseball game – yet we might not purchase the same T-shirt.

Kindred Sprits

I know.  I’m with you.  I still cherish the goofy over-sized sponge finger I won at the Giants’ Game…

But, what if you could win something huge, fabulous and unbelievable – easily?!   (Now I sound like an infomercial.)  I mean, wouldn’t it be fun to win easily instead of trying to turn up the corner on your ticket or trying to gauge exactly when to drop your ticket into the raffle box to make sure it is on top… you know what I mean…  There are no sure-things but what if the odds were against the house —  and for the player?!



For me, I feel compelled to drive all the way to Costco (gas money…) in order to get more than I really need for more than I really wanted to spend.  Translated that means that I do get good deals, no question.  But, I spend more because I’m there, I use more gas hauling my load home, I have to open a recycling center to store all of the cardboard packaging that surrounded my goods and then I have to justify to myself why I just spent way more than I anticipated…  I do this once a month.  Those odds aren’t so good.  In fact, they are really bad but I do it because I like the experience, in a twisted way.  Costco makes me feel like I’m winning.

Cloud in the Sky

For Leslie’s contest, the odds are VERY GOOD to begin with!  Way better than most contests (or a Costco visit) and besides, you actually get a great item just for entering – not just a ticket.  And on top of that great item, if you win the contest, the prize is quite wonderful and significant!

Now, I’m not saying that the saddle you bid on every year isn’t a good prize.  It is.  And, I’m not saying the stuff you buy for charity isn’t a good cause.  It is.  What I’m saying is that you get potentially three wins with this contest.  You get a signed print of your choice for your investment, you may very well win, and you are also supporting equine charities indirectly because Leslie donates several paintings to Equine causes annually.  She donates a lot.  A lot.  Here is a link to her current donations and here is a link about her philanthropy.


The Blues Brothers

OK, here is how to get into this contest (now I really sound like a bookie!).

For anyone to get their name into the soapdish, you purchase one of Leslie’s signed and faboo prints ( small =$98).   If you purchase a small print your name goes in once.  If you purchase a large print ($300), your name goes in three times. Easy.

The winner will receive an Original Leslie Anne Webb painting of their choice ($4500) or an original to be created of the winner’s fav pet.


1)  Go to the website’s store and shop for the print you like (click here).

The Guardian Angel

2)  Once on the page, to browse the prints, you can choose the color background you like (ie: click here for “shades of blue and green” background)

3)  Once in the background color screen, click on the first box which will say “Giclee Prints” (ie: click here for giclee prints in shades of blue and green)

4)  Browse and click on the one you want in the size you want!

5)  Leslie will SIGN the print and sent it off to you!

The Sweetest Thing

6)  Leslie will put your name in the soapdish!  Done.  Easy!


I’m not having Leslie put my name in the hat because it would be weird if I’ve told you all about this contest twice and then I end up winning… That could be misconstrued.  (Even though, I am quite tempted!)  However, I did have a lot of fun picking out the prints that I would purchase.  And,

Oscar Kisses

I’ve been contemplating which photo of my Aladdin to give to her if I was to win…  Maybe you should start playing around with your photos, eh?

OK, here are my favs…

1)  The Guardian Angel: “Everyone has their own Guardian Angel.”

I love this one because the horses’ expressions are exactly how they are in a close knit group.  So perfect.

2)  The Sweetest Thing: “The sweetest thing in life is to love and be loved in return.”

I love this because the tenderness shines through.

3)  Oscar Kisses: “Kisses, anyone?”

I love this because I love when my horses give me the kissy-face!


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