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A TWIN STORY!: MEET CANTA TIVITOS DELITE AND DESIRE!






I asked for twin stories and I received two.

Today, we meet Canta Tivitos Delite and Desire!

Sire: Lenas Trey Tivitos
Dam: Canta Cee Bubbles

Delite on left and Desire on Right.  Delite was first...

Delite on left and Desire on Right. Delite was first…

 

BUT FIRST, A TWINNING THOUGHT…

Let me digress a bit.  First off, twins are rare in equines because generally, only one thrives in the womb.  The other either dies in utero – which is not good for the dam… – or it is born under developed.

This happens because the sack and uterus usually cannot support two fetuses.

As a general practice, if a vet determines that there are two embryos growing, he will ‘pinch’ one to save the mare the probable misfortune of one foal dying inside – or of a traumatic birth.

Now for me, the pinching was always a dilemma.  If my mare did have two embryos, could I have the vet pinch one?  And if so, which one?

Luckily, I never had to deal with that… but I know twinning is one reason why many breeders opt for an early ultrasound.

THE ULTRASOUND

If you are a breeder, you are all too familiar with ultrasounds.

Especially when you are breeding to outside stallions.  You need to know the size of the follicle before insemination… so you can order your blue tub of babies via Fed Ex at exactly the right time.

QUICK, CALL THE STUD AND ORDER OVERNIGHT!

Once the deed has been done, a few weeks later, you will need to check to see if the mare ‘took’.

While the vet is palpating the mare during the ‘pregcheck’ ultrasound, he/she will show you the digital photo of the embryo.  This is what you stick on the fridge.

In some cases, he/she may show you two embryos.  (This is where the pinching comes in.)

And sometimes the vet misses the twin completely…

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Born healthy without much human intervention!

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Desire, the second foal.

Tuckered out...

Tuckered out…  Good, busy Mama.

 

CANTA TIVITOS DELITE AND DESIRE!

Meet these precious young ladies who were born on April 25th, 2012.  Delite was first (darker filly).

These girls were born on a working/training/showing ranch, Susie Walton Foundation Quarter Horses, in Michigan.

The really interesting part is that twins are not unusual around there…

It seems that the dam, Canta Cee Bubbles, had a set of twins four years earlier.  And, another mare on the ranch of the same the sire line had 3 sets of twins!

!!!

A mare of the same sire line had 3 sets of twins – on that ranch!

I wonder if that is conclusive or just a coincidence?

(The second foal was missed on two of the ultrasounds.)

Anyway, to say that Susie was familiar with twins and the complications was an understatement…

They should mark their height against the side of the barn...

They should mark their height against the side of the barn…

THE BIRTH

The dam, Canta Cee Bubbles by Canta Peppy, wasn’t any larger than she had been with previous single pregnancies.

She didn’t act any differently and she didn’t seem more stressed.

The mare hadn’t had an ultrasound because the stud lived on the ranch (no need to call in an order…) and her last births had been a series of singles.

The night she foaled, it was ‘business as usual’.  The first arrived and Susie thought all was done for the morning.

And then the mare laid down again.

At first, Susie thought nothing of it.  Mares usually lie down to pass the placenta.

So, Susie quietly left the barn…

But then she thought… Hmmmm.  Uh oh.  What if…?

By the time she got back to the barn, #2 was on the ground!  Canta Tivitos Desire.

They are the second set of twins from this particular dam.

They are the second set of twins from this particular dam.

MAMA MIA!

Susie said that Mama seemed to be more interested in the second filly.  It was as if she had forgotten about Delite.

Mama focused her attention on getting Desire to drink.  So, Susie had to spend several hours working with Delite.  Finally, it all happened comfortably and each girl took a side of the dam for nursing.

And, it stayed that way.  Both fillies only drank from her own side!

Growing and neither is stunted in any way.

Growing and neither is stunted in any way.  Delite is a stunning brown/black with some flash.  Desire is King Ranch sorrel.

 

HEALTHY!

Both girls did receive all the colostrum they needed and they are both growing normally.  Neither is smaller than normal.

I asked if they hung out together more than normal, non-twin, same age foals would.

Susie said no.  She said that there is a third filly from another dam who is about the same age and they all play together.  Susie doesn’t see any favoritism between the girls.

Here are the three fillies all together.  The twins don't hang together specially.

Here are the three fillies all together. The twins don’t hang together specially.

FOR SALE! (no affiliation)

The girls are for sale!  Delite is shedding out to a rich brown/black and Desire is King Ranch Sorrel!

They will probably be the last of their line…  So if you like them, you can contact Susie.

You can read about them here.

They are for sale (no affiliation) and probably the last of their line.

They are for sale (no affiliation) and probably the last of their line.

Pretty girls.

Pretty girls.

This is the sire...

This is the sire… Lenas Trey Tivitos (photo: Brandie Feasel)

This is their sister who is a surviving twin from a previous birth of the same dam.

This is their sister who is a surviving twin from a previous birth of the same dam.  (photo:  Brandie Feasel)

This is their brother, who was a single birth from the same dam.

This is their brother, who was a single birth from the same dam.

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CAN WE GENETICALLY TEST A HORSE TO CONFIRM HIS BREED?: No, not yet… but we can figure out other things…






Last week I sent away for a genetic testing kit for myself.

Why?…

Because my parents never embraced their heritage so I don’t really know much about mine.

You see, my mother, who was born on a Chippewa Reservation in Minnesota, repeatedly tells my brother and I that we are not Chippewa.  Or, not much, anyway…

??

Same with my father who was 100% Sicilian.  He was born here to immigrant parents who never spoke English and my Dad was determined to assimilate.  My father went on to become a dentist, speak perfect (non-accented) English and to – essentially – never look back.

Hmmmmmm.

Why do I want to know my roots when both of my parents would rather forget?

I just do.

So, I sent away for the kit.

It arrived today and I dutifully followed the instructions.

Soon I will know.

But, then I got to thinking…

This is the genetic kit I am mailing in the morning...

This is the genetic kit I am mailing in the morning…

BUT THEN I GOT TO THINKING…

I have 5 horses here who I have no idea their genetic identity.

Oh I can guess… but I don’t know.

Well, I kind-of know about Remi because when I adopted her from the BLM they told me that the blood they took from her gather indicated that the Oregon herd had a lot of Walking Horse in it.

Hmmmm.

I wonder how they knew that because…

We can be genetically test for genetic heritage in dogs and human…

But not for horses – yet.

They’ve finished the genome discoveries, but they haven’t done the breed studies yet.

Bummer!

WHAT THEY DO KNOW…

What they do know is pretty cool.

I found sites that will test for equine color and certain diseases and lots of other avenues and discovery paths that I had to list because some are common while others obscure.

Maybe this will help some of you.

Here are a few that I found during my research:

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Another...

Another…

This is brand new!

This is brand new!

 

FASCINATING STUDIES

I stumbled upon this site.  These folks are very dedicated.  They are the ones who are really taking apart the equine genome and partnering with many for case studies.

Maybe some particular information about a particular trait listed below might help your horse?

This looked promising...  But upon review, this group did qualify the genome, but not for breed discovery...

This looked promising… But upon review, this group did qualify the genome, but not for breed discovery…

 

THIS IS A VARIETY OF STUDIES HAPPENING NOW

This is a list of studies happening now... you can go to the site now to learn more.

This is a list of studies happening now… you can go to the site now to learn more.

Cerebellar Abiotrophy Arabian University of California – Davis
Cervical Stenotic Myelopathy Thoroughbred University of Kentucky
Chronic Progressive Lymphedema Belgian, Shire, Clydesdale University of California – Davis
Contracted Foal Syndrome Thoroughbred University of Kentucky
Cytogenetic Abnormalities/Infertility Thoroughbred, others University of Kentucky
Dwarfism Miniature University of Kentucky
Extreme Lordosis Saddlebred University of Kentucky
Immune Mediated Myopathy Quarter Horse University of Minnesota/ Texas A&M
Fell Pony Syndrome Fell Pony Texas A & M, Uppsala
Fertility and Reproduction Various University of Hannover, Germany
Fracture and Tendon Injury Thoroughbred Animal Health Trust,?Royal Veterinary College, United Kingdom
Laminitis Thoroughbred University of Kentucky
Lavender Foal Arabian Cornell University
Musculo-Skeletal Defects French breeds INRA, France
Navicular Disease Warmblood University of Hannover, Germany
Osteochondrosis Dissicans Dutch Warmblood University College Dublin, Ireland
Osteochondrosis Dissicans Thoroughbred Animal Health Trust, United Kingdom
Osteochondrosis Dissicans Hannoverian Warmblood University of Hannover, Germany
Osteochondrosis Dessicans Standardbred, Quarter Horse, Belgian University of Minnesota/?Norwegian Veterinary School
Pasture-Associated Laminitis Ponies and others Virginia Technical University
Photosensitive Trichothiodystrophy Curly Horse Texas A & M University
Polysaccharide Storage Myopathy 2 Quarter Horse University of Minnesota
Recurrent Airway Obstruction Swiss Warmblood University of Berne, Switzerland/?Animal Health Trust, United Kingdom
Recurrent Airway Obstruction Quarter Horse Michigan State University,?Cornell University
Recurrent Exertional Rhabdomyolysis Thoroughbred Animal Health Trust, United Kingdom
Recurrent Exertional Rhabdomyolysis Thoroughbred University of Minnesota
Recurrent Uveitis Appaloosa University of Minnesota/?Texas A&M University
Sarcoid Tumors Quarter Horses Cornell University
Shivers Muscle Tremors Belgian University of Minnesota
Stereotypic behavior (Cribbing) Thoroughbred, Quarter horse, others University of California – Davis
Suspensory Ligament Desmitis Paso Fino Texas A&M University
White Markings Swiss Franches Montagnes University of Berne, Switzerland

Gene Expression Projects

Maturation and Repair of Articular Cartilage Various University of Kentucky
Allergic Eczema Icelandic Swedish Agricultural University
Alternations of Maternal Immunity During Pregnancy Various Cornell University
Athletic Performance Trotters Swedish Agricultural University
Common Variable Immunodeficiency Various Cornell University
Early Embryonic Development Various Texas A&M University
Equine Placental Development Various Cornell University
Fertility and Reproduction Various University of Hannover, Germany
Immunity to Equine Herpes Virus Type 1 Various Cornell University
Immunity to Rhodococcus equi in foals Various Cornell University
Improved Safety of Intra-articular?Glucocorticoid Therapy Various University of Kentucky
Muscle Response to Exercise Thoroughbred University College Dublin, Ireland
Osteochondrosis Dessicans Standardbred University of Minnesota/?Norwegian Veterinary School
Recurrent Airway Obstruction Various Cornell University
Recurrent Airway Obstruction Warmblood University of Berne, Switzerland/?Animal Health Trust, United Kingdom
Recurrent Airway Obstruction Quarter Horse, others Michigan State University
Studies of Equine Allergic Diseases Various Cornell University
Suspensory Ligament Desmitis Paso Fino Texas A&M University

 

PRETTY COOL, EH?

Someday soon, hopefully, we will be able to test for breeds….

 

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